Came back after 3 years ... - Guild Wars Forums

Rufio Lostboy · Jul 08, 2009, 07:22 AM // 07:22

I recently picked up and installed my copy of GW again, it's been over 3 years ago. Tried factions but I didn't like the new classes so I quit. Now I'm back to play GW:EN because I read that the expansion is in the continent where GW:P was played. But a lot has changed. I never even heard of heroes?
I played WoW for a year or two but that's going down the drain. It's still in my fingers tho, I keep pressing space to jump ...

My classes are: Wa/? (sword), N/? (Minion Master), Mo/Wa (55 hp farmer)

I find it kinda hard to pick up where I left. So I have many questions.

* Where can I find good Prophecy/Core-only builds?
* Is Minion Master still viable, I hear it's been nerfed?
* Are there any places left for a 55hp monk to farm? Did troll cave last night but the loot was horrible.
* How much do candy canes go for?

* Do people still actually play the prophecies missions? Went to RoF last night and it was abandoned.

My main goal now is to finish the Prophecies campaign with my warrior and necro, and find a use for my monk. I like to team up but can't seem to find a lot of players.

Who can fill in the blanks for me?

Thank you

konohamaru heaven · Jul 08, 2009, 08:03 AM // 08:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufio Lostboy

I recently picked up and installed my copy of GW again, it's been over 3 years ago. Tried factions but I didn't like the new classes so I quit. Now I'm back to play GW:EN because I read that the expansion is in the continent where GW:P was played. But a lot has changed. I never even heard of heroes?
I played WoW for a year or two but that's going down the drain. It's still in my fingers tho, I keep pressing space to jump ...

My classes are: Wa/? (sword), N/? (Minion Master), Mo/Wa (55 hp farmer)

I find it kinda hard to pick up where I left. So I have many questions.

* Where can I find good Prophecy/Core-only builds?
* Is Minion Master still viable, I hear it's been nerfed?
* Are there any places left for a 55hp monk to farm? Did troll cave last night but the loot was horrible.
* How much do candy canes go for?

* Do people still actually play the prophecies missions? Went to RoF last night and it was abandoned.

My main goal now is to finish the Prophecies campaign with my warrior and necro, and find a use for my monk. I like to team up but can't seem to find a lot of players.

Who can fill in the blanks for me?

Thank you

Minion Masters are still quite viable. Sure you can have large armies anymore, but they are still quite useful.

With the introduction of other skills the 55 monk has become a bit more out of date,but there are a few places I do believe. You can farm Undead in Gates of Kryta Mission you can farm Undead outside of Bergen (sp?) Springs both in hard mode of course. There are still hydras outside of Augury rock that can be farmed. You should know more of the Sought after skins and such are in Eotn. Regarding the loot, some areas have received the nerf bat a few times so they may seem crappy due to this.

I am not sure on Candy Canes ATM I have not followed the Prices very much.

People still play the missions but with the addition of Chapters the numbers are spread out more than they used to be. If you need someone to play with feel free to add my character name under my avatar and I can try to play with you if you are on.

Andemius · Jul 08, 2009, 08:09 AM // 08:09

Welcome back.

PvX has builds for proph only chars, but you'll be hard pressed to get a good build without multi-campain skills.

MM is as strong as ever, but you are limited to 10 (i think) minions at 16 Death magic. Check out Aura of the Lich. it's now a great MM skill.

55hp is pretty much dead, outside bergen hot springs in HM is okay, as it HM NF City of Tourqua solo, and you can solo the great destroyer with a 55hp. 600/Smite is the new 55hp.

I'd sell Candy Canes at 100g/point. Check wiki for points and stuff.

Not a huge amount of people do missons anymore with other people, unless it's particularly hard or you're going with guild/alliance firends. Heroes are the new PUGs, like it or not :S

Rufio Lostboy · Jul 08, 2009, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Cheers for the tips, I forgot about the Undead in Gates of Kryta Mission, farmed them a lot in my time. So this hard mode ... how do I get it?

Heroes ... I never played with them but allready not liking them. How am I supposed to finish the prohecies campagnes now, where there are no heroes available?

I'll probably promote my Necro to my new main

I really like MM, Aura of the lich seems like an imba skill.

*edit: typo

therangereminem · Jul 08, 2009, 08:22 AM // 08:22

welcome back and im sorry to hear you played wow lol

guildwars well is dead nothign more then uwsc fowsc and doasc and pugging them is the worst

that you have aion comign out soon so until then ill play guildwars but not after aion release see ya have fun

Kamara · Jul 08, 2009, 08:36 AM // 08:36

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Originally Posted by Rufio Lostboy

Cheers for the tips, I forgot about the Undead in Gates of Kryta Mission, farmed them a lot in my time. So this hard mode ... how do I get it?

Heroes ... I never played with them but allready not liking them. How am I supposed to finish the prohecies campagnes now, where there are no heroes available?

I'll probably promote my Necro to my new main

I really like MM, Aura of the lich seems like an imba skill.

You get Hard Mode by doing the last mission of each campaign. Then it is unlocked across your account to all Level 20s. So your Necro would only need to finish Prophecies and then all your level 20s can access Hard Mode Prophs.

If you were to buy another campaign, you wouldn't be able to access Hard Mode there until one of your characters did the last missio.

Heroes are a love/hate thing. They allow people who don't like playing with people / random people to accomplish things, the downside to this is that people who do like playing with randoms will find difficulty. If there are no people around to mission with you then you have two options really: Go ahead with henches or buy one of the campaigns where you can get heroes. If you're not willing or unable to buy another campaign then really only option 1 is viable for you :/

There's a third choice though. There are still plenty of active Guilds around who will gladly do missions and other things. Have a look around the recruitment forums if you're interested in looking for a guild

The new Aura of the Lich is pretty awesome now, yeah. However, don't pigeonhole yourself into playing *just* MM. Try Curses, play about with Blood, do non-minion things with Death. Different things work best for different missions/quests. Playing only 1/3 of a class will seriously limit you. Necros are pretty fun, I looove mine

4thVariety · Jul 08, 2009, 08:43 AM // 08:43

It's best you start off with Gwen, get your heroes, get PvE skills, get the groove on so to speak. With heroes you will have a far easier time completing Prophecies. Screw that whole "playing in the right order". Nothing good will come from that, trust me. At this stage you will have a very very very hard time doing Prophecies on your own, while other players might reduce your role to distant visitor. They will zip through while you won't even know whats happening.

For Prophecies the times of full human teams are over. You will meet 2-3 other players and everyone brings heroes to fill the group. That will be a pleasant experience. EotN will get you ready for that.

Your 55hp should learn what a 600hp farming monk is. You won't regret it. Your Minion Master is still ultra powerful, even though you need to look into the changes. Your Necro can also be a powerful Necor-Ritualist Healer. Your Warrior is still a Warrior, nothing really changed there.

Rufio Lostboy · Jul 08, 2009, 09:12 AM // 09:12

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Originally Posted by therangereminem

welcome back and im sorry to hear you played wow lol

Hehe don't be, I had a lot of fun in WoW, but it's becoming too easy and addictive, so I closed that book and will never look back.

About heroes: if I understand this well, I can play EotN, collect heroes, and then go back to where I was in Prophecies (Ring of Fire) and do the missions there with those heroes? This could make things quite easier I think.

@ 4thVariety: I read about 600 monks, and they require factions & nightfall, which I don't have.

@ Kamara: I have actually finished the Prophecies campaign with a character which I afterwards deleted, that was before Factions tho, don't know if that counts? As for necro's: I never played anything else but MM, would love to try curses, could you help me get started? Remember I only have Proph & EotN.

As form my warrior ... don't really like to play with her anymore, but would probably regret deleting her, guess I'll just put her on hold.

Anon-e-mouse · Jul 08, 2009, 09:43 AM // 09:43

You have to have logged in with the toon who had completed the campaign, after the introduction of Hard Mode, for Hard Mode to unlock. As you deleted the toon before Factions it doesn't count to unlocking Hard Mode.

Angel Killuminati · Jul 08, 2009, 09:45 AM // 09:45

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Originally Posted by Rufio Lostboy

Hehe don't be, I had a lot of fun in WoW, but it's becoming too easy and addictive, so I closed that book and will never look back.

About heroes: if I understand this well, I can play EotN, collect heroes, and then go back to where I was in Prophecies (Ring of Fire) and do the missions there with those heroes? This could make things quite easier I think.

Once you have heroes, they are with that specific character forever. They travel with you.

Rufio Lostboy · Jul 08, 2009, 09:55 AM // 09:55

Ok thanks for all the help. Guess I'll go and pimp my necro, get some builds and armor, throw myself into GWEN, come back with heroes, finish prophecies, and hell maybe by then I'll get factions too and maybe nightfall! Got enough to keep me occupied 'till GW2.

Sookie · Jul 08, 2009, 10:06 AM // 10:06

If you need in-game assistance, questions or assistance with a mission, feel free to PM me while logged into the game. I would be more than glad to help in any way that I can.

IGN: Enolena Sedai

...regardless of what is written by therangereminem, the game is not dead. PvE is still strong, there are skills to master, titles to earn and places to explore.

AmbientMelody · Jul 08, 2009, 10:17 AM // 10:17

In Proph try german districts, there are for some reason much more players than on other districts.

BenjZee · Jul 08, 2009, 11:06 AM // 11:06

dont forget to check all your characters for birthday pressents tooo

I actually suggest pickin the other campaigns up, you can get them fairly cheaply. They offer a good range of skills especially for if you love being a Minion Master - which i do too. The most effective builds share skills from other campaign.
If on the party window there is a red helmet then taht means you can play hard mode if not, your not too far from the end anyway.

Rufio Lostboy · Jul 08, 2009, 11:34 AM // 11:34

After some searching on the internet, and the comments I've read here, I think I probably will buy factions and nightfall too. They both score very good at reviews, and not that expensive. It will be easier to find builds too, like SmithyBen pointed out here. I'll focus on my necro, this seems like a very versatile class (damage dealing, battery, support healing). Can't wait to get playing again

slowerpoke · Jul 08, 2009, 11:40 AM // 11:40

assuming you enjoy pve, the campaigns are worth playing at least once through. just don't expect the content to sustain you indefinitely.

boxterduke · Jul 08, 2009, 01:23 PM // 13:23

wow three years, that is quite a long time.
I recently came back after one year and feel lost with all the updates that are in.

I would say get all games and play them once or twice. The Dungeons are fun to do and most can be done with h/h team.

Good luck

TheodenKing · Jul 08, 2009, 01:33 PM // 13:33

There is quite a bit of new stuff since you've been gone. My best advice is to join a guild, preferably one that uses Ventrilo or Teamspeak. People can show you all the new stuff a lot easier and more fun than trying to get it all on a forum.

Rufio Lostboy · Jul 08, 2009, 01:36 PM // 13:36

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Originally Posted by boxterduke

wow three years, that is quite a long time.

Yeah I know hehe, had 3 minatures on each character when I logged in

I'll just start to play factions and I hope everything will get clear as a play. After all, new players also get to learn everything. I'll just play dumb.

caballo_oscuro · Jul 08, 2009, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Don't forget to pick up the books from each campaign to track your missions/dungeons.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Storybook

You might also wanna check out the Bonus Mission Pack for some nice looking weapons and when you have all campaigns, maybe give the cross-campaign scavenger hunt a go... You'll get a book for that in eotn with all the clues...

Jul 08, 2009, 07:22 AM // 07:22	#1
Rufio Lostboy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: N/Mo	Came back after 3 years ... I recently picked up and installed my copy of GW again, it's been over 3 years ago. Tried factions but I didn't like the new classes so I quit. Now I'm back to play GW:EN because I read that the expansion is in the continent where GW:P was played. But a lot has changed. I never even heard of heroes? I played WoW for a year or two but that's going down the drain. It's still in my fingers tho, I keep pressing space to jump ... My classes are: Wa/? (sword), N/? (Minion Master), Mo/Wa (55 hp farmer) I find it kinda hard to pick up where I left. So I have many questions. * Where can I find good Prophecy/Core-only builds? * Is Minion Master still viable, I hear it's been nerfed? * Are there any places left for a 55hp monk to farm? Did troll cave last night but the loot was horrible. * How much do candy canes go for? * Do people still actually play the prophecies missions? Went to RoF last night and it was abandoned. My main goal now is to finish the Prophecies campaign with my warrior and necro, and find a use for my monk. I like to team up but can't seem to find a lot of players. Who can fill in the blanks for me? Thank you

Jul 08, 2009, 11:06 AM // 11:06	#14
BenjZee Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: The Overacheivers [Club] Profession: Mo/	dont forget to check all your characters for birthday pressents tooo I actually suggest pickin the other campaigns up, you can get them fairly cheaply. They offer a good range of skills especially for if you love being a Minion Master - which i do too. The most effective builds share skills from other campaign. If on the party window there is a red helmet then taht means you can play hard mode if not, your not too far from the end anyway. Last edited by BenjZee; Jul 08, 2009 at 11:09 AM // 11:09..

Jul 08, 2009, 08:09 AM // 08:09	#3
Andemius Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2008 Guild: Vanguard's Last Stand [Hero] Profession: W/	Welcome back. PvX has builds for proph only chars, but you'll be hard pressed to get a good build without multi-campain skills. MM is as strong as ever, but you are limited to 10 (i think) minions at 16 Death magic. Check out Aura of the Lich. it's now a great MM skill. 55hp is pretty much dead, outside bergen hot springs in HM is okay, as it HM NF City of Tourqua solo, and you can solo the great destroyer with a 55hp. 600/Smite is the new 55hp. I'd sell Candy Canes at 100g/point. Check wiki for points and stuff. Not a huge amount of people do missons anymore with other people, unless it's particularly hard or you're going with guild/alliance firends. Heroes are the new PUGs, like it or not :S

Jul 08, 2009, 08:20 AM // 08:20	#4
Rufio Lostboy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: N/Mo	Cheers for the tips, I forgot about the Undead in Gates of Kryta Mission, farmed them a lot in my time. So this hard mode ... how do I get it? Heroes ... I never played with them but allready not liking them. How am I supposed to finish the prohecies campagnes now, where there are no heroes available? I'll probably promote my Necro to my new main I really like MM, Aura of the lich seems like an imba skill. *edit: typo

Jul 08, 2009, 08:22 AM // 08:22	#5
therangereminem Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2007 Profession: R/Mo	welcome back and im sorry to hear you played wow lol guildwars well is dead nothign more then uwsc fowsc and doasc and pugging them is the worst that you have aion comign out soon so until then ill play guildwars but not after aion release see ya have fun

Jul 08, 2009, 08:43 AM // 08:43	#7
4thVariety Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: European Union Guild: ADL Profession: E/	It's best you start off with Gwen, get your heroes, get PvE skills, get the groove on so to speak. With heroes you will have a far easier time completing Prophecies. Screw that whole "playing in the right order". Nothing good will come from that, trust me. At this stage you will have a very very very hard time doing Prophecies on your own, while other players might reduce your role to distant visitor. They will zip through while you won't even know whats happening. For Prophecies the times of full human teams are over. You will meet 2-3 other players and everyone brings heroes to fill the group. That will be a pleasant experience. EotN will get you ready for that. Your 55hp should learn what a 600hp farming monk is. You won't regret it. Your Minion Master is still ultra powerful, even though you need to look into the changes. Your Necro can also be a powerful Necor-Ritualist Healer. Your Warrior is still a Warrior, nothing really changed there.

Jul 08, 2009, 09:43 AM // 09:43	#9
Anon-e-mouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: @ Home Guild: League Of Friends [LOF] Profession: R/Mo	You have to have logged in with the toon who had completed the campaign, after the introduction of Hard Mode, for Hard Mode to unlock. As you deleted the toon before Factions it doesn't count to unlocking Hard Mode.

Jul 08, 2009, 09:55 AM // 09:55	#11
Rufio Lostboy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: N/Mo	Ok thanks for all the help. Guess I'll go and pimp my necro, get some builds and armor, throw myself into GWEN, come back with heroes, finish prophecies, and hell maybe by then I'll get factions too and maybe nightfall! Got enough to keep me occupied 'till GW2.

Jul 08, 2009, 10:06 AM // 10:06	#12
Sookie Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NoCenTex Guild: [AKA] Guild Leader Profession: R/	If you need in-game assistance, questions or assistance with a mission, feel free to PM me while logged into the game. I would be more than glad to help in any way that I can. IGN: Enolena Sedai ...regardless of what is written by therangereminem, the game is not dead. PvE is still strong, there are skills to master, titles to earn and places to explore.

Jul 08, 2009, 10:17 AM // 10:17	#13
AmbientMelody Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Poland Guild: N/A	In Proph try german districts, there are for some reason much more players than on other districts.

Jul 08, 2009, 11:34 AM // 11:34	#15
Rufio Lostboy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: N/Mo	After some searching on the internet, and the comments I've read here, I think I probably will buy factions and nightfall too. They both score very good at reviews, and not that expensive. It will be easier to find builds too, like SmithyBen pointed out here. I'll focus on my necro, this seems like a very versatile class (damage dealing, battery, support healing). Can't wait to get playing again

Jul 08, 2009, 11:40 AM // 11:40	#16
slowerpoke Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cuba	assuming you enjoy pve, the campaigns are worth playing at least once through. just don't expect the content to sustain you indefinitely.

Jul 08, 2009, 01:23 PM // 13:23	#17
boxterduke Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Walking the ruins of Ascalon Guild: DVDF Profession: Me/	wow three years, that is quite a long time. I recently came back after one year and feel lost with all the updates that are in. I would say get all games and play them once or twice. The Dungeons are fun to do and most can be done with h/h team. Good luck

Jul 08, 2009, 01:33 PM // 13:33	#18
TheodenKing Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: DoA Guild: Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk) Profession: N/Me	There is quite a bit of new stuff since you've been gone. My best advice is to join a guild, preferably one that uses Ventrilo or Teamspeak. People can show you all the new stuff a lot easier and more fun than trying to get it all on a forum.

Jul 08, 2009, 01:43 PM // 13:43	#20
caballo_oscuro Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008 Guild: Aura	Don't forget to pick up the books from each campaign to track your missions/dungeons. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Storybook You might also wanna check out the Bonus Mission Pack for some nice looking weapons and when you have all campaigns, maybe give the cross-campaign scavenger hunt a go... You'll get a book for that in eotn with all the clues...